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If Sprint released the Evo3D and SGS2 and Photon on the same day which would you pick?

Which phone if all 3 on the same day ?

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NeoteriX said:
I agree with you on the Evo 4G -- and honestly, in my opinion, on the basis of so many positive reviews at the time, the Evo probably got a lot more credit than it deserved. At its release in June 2010, it had a Snapdragon processor already found in devices released half a year earlier in the Nexus One and HTC Incredible; the 8MP/720p camera was great from a stat comparison point of view but otherwise was pretty mediocre as a camera in lowlight and the video/audio was terrible; and it would take nearly half a year later for 4G to come to the largest city in the United States, New York City.

In that light, it'll be interesting to see though, how the lukewarm reviews will impact how the Evo 3D will be remembered in history.
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You know... I don't recall that the reviews for the Evo 4G were terribly glowing. The battery life on 4G was blasted and battery life overall was just passable, the size was questioned and the speed was deemed acceptable but not as fast as other 1Ghz snapdragon phones. I think a lot of what made the Evo 4G so good is that sprint/HTC worked on fixing the issues... lifting the 30fps cap, gradually improving battery life, addressing some of the build quality issues, etc..

I only hope they give as much post-release attention to the E3D.
 
apinkel said:
You know... I don't recall that the reviews for the Evo 4G were terribly glowing. The battery life on 4G was blasted and battery life overall was just passable, the size was questioned and the speed was deemed acceptable but not as fast as other 1Ghz snapdragon phones. I think a lot of what made the Evo 4G so good is that sprint/HTC worked on fixing the issues... lifting the 30fps cap, gradually improving battery life, addressing some of the build quality issues, etc..

I only hope they give as much post-release attention to the E3D.
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Hmm I recall some blasted the phone as not ready for primetime but I also remember the majority just loving the phone for being a true first. Cons were the 4g and battery life and the size (for some) for sure but I remember more glowing than terrible (lots of excellent and 9/10). I think how new and fresh the Evo was is actually detracting from the 3vo's scores in some cases.
 
Reviewers serve two masters.

They have to do a decent job at reviewing or people wouldn't read future reviews.

They have to be edgy and controversial a bit or people wouldn't view en masse - the required element for sufficient page hits to support their advertising revenue to keep the site up.

Some reviewers are sensationalist on purpose, some are accidently so by quoting other sites, some are side-effect so by trying to add unique spin to compete against other reviews, some are so because of insufficient domain knowledge on the part of reviewers.

Lots of subtle influences on even the best of reviewers - it just is what it is.

In my opinion.
 
sikclown said:
Hmm I recall some blasted the phone as not ready for primetime but I also remember the majority just loving the phone for being a true first. Cons were the 4g and battery life and the size (for some) for sure but I remember more glowing than terrible (lots of excellent and 9/10). I think how new and fresh the Evo was is actually detracting from the 3vo's scores in some cases.
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The reviews were more positive overall than they have been for the E3D but I just don't remember them being glowing. There probably was more recognition of the inovation that the 4G brought to the table whereas the 3D aspect of the E3D actually comes across as a gimmick and has (I think) made reviewers focus on that aspect of this phone at the expense of other cutting edge aspects (dual core, qHD display, etc.).

The things the reviews have so far made me want to investiage further are call quality and battery life. I'm looking forward to anandtech's review and reports from early adopters to find out more.
 
I just got a little annoyed. I remember when I had my second cell phone and text messaging was the big new feature it had. Guess how many people told me that was a gimmick. Well ill tell you, a lot. I just think anyone should discount something new because they don't like it catching on. Isn't that what we all are here for? All the new technology and innovations. That's why I love my smartphones and gadgets. Just my thoughts.
 
I think the impact of the Evo 4g can best be described by the number of people who posted on the EVO forums trying to convince us (themselves) that their droid, galaxy etc. was "superior" stating all the hardware statistics etc. etc. but in the end the majority of people, here and elsewhere just kept on loving the EVO. It had it's issues, but so did everything else that was a major player at the time. And the EVO got much better at a much faster rate than the rest. If it weren't for the dual-core processors, I would have a hard time justifying an upgrade even now and even in that, my EVO is plenty fast enough for me. I'm just a gadget junky.

The 3D may not have the impact of the 4G, but it will make a splash for sure. The 4G had the benefit of being significantly ahead with Wimax 4G. The 3D has nothing that isn't in the market already and 3D is far less applicable to most people than 4G was. I'm still debating if I want to get one and take it back for the SGS II or not.
 
Just saw this review which puts the Sensation up against the SII. I realize the E3D is not exactly like the Sensation, but the review has excellent detail for each phone.
Mega Review: HTC Sensation V Samsung Galaxy SII - Smartphone Gurus

It shows battery life for the two and every little nook and cranny detail you can think of for the two phones. The blacks on the SII are incredible compared to a TFT screen, but other than that I think that I really like the HTC design and software more. He even talks about that you can tell the resolution difference between the two screens.
Anyway, even though it is the Sensation and not the E3D, I think there are enough similarities between the two that you can kind of get the gist in differences.
Can't wait until I can order on Tuesday and get rid of my TP2!

Ryan
 
Well, if it weren't for my 1 year upgrade eligibility every year, I probably would hesitate to upgrade to any of the phones being discussed in this thread:

Falcone?s LightSquared in Deal With Sprint - Bloomberg

That said, I'm still likely to upgrade to one of the 3. But how sad would that be if none of these phones would be relivant to 4G in 3 years, if Sprint is solely going with LTE?
 
2strokenut said:
Now I know the SGS2 is one kick ass phone, maybe even spec-wise better than the EVO3d BUT the deciding factor for me (and should be for most) to stay HTC is the support on this site and the support of HTC/sprint.
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This is the exact same scenario we went through last year with the Evo 4G vs Epic 4G.

People touted the Epic's great specs and benchmarks, but the Evo was the better pound for pound device. That's still true today after both phones have had a year of firmware updates tweaks and android updates.

Also, Sense is better than Touchwiz, HTC has better quality and support than Samsung, and the performance gap between the Evo3D and Galaxy S2 is much smaller than the gap between the Evo and the Epic, negating the Galaxy S2's main claim to fame.

The Evo experience was never about being the "most powerful smartphone". It's about being more than a smartphone, while the Galaxy S2 experience will have progressed little over the Epic back in 2010.

Sprint and HTC are trying to make the next Wii and PS3 and HDTV in your hand, while Samsung is trying to create the next iPhone before Apple makes it first.
 
From what I've read in several reviews, the Evo 3D requires that you look at the screen at a precise angle to get the 3D effect. Any other angle will look like those old 3D baseball cards that you move in order to create some animation.. and that can't be turned off because it's part of the glass display. I won't be buying an Evo 3D if this is the case.
 
I expect it's more like limited sweet spot rather that one precise spot - but we'll have to see.

Sharp seems to be moving these sort of phones in Japan, Sharp is screen supplier here - so either the Japanese are more forgiving or the reviewers are taking a hard line.

We'll know soon.
 
EarlyMon said:
I expect it's more like limited sweet spot rather that one precise spot - but we'll have to see.

Sharp seems to be moving these sort of phones in Japan, Sharp is screen supplier here - so either the Japanese are more forgiving or the reviewers are taking a hard line.

We'll know soon.
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On the Nintendo 3DS, you had about 1-2 inches of leeway in either direction before you lose the 3D effect. So 2-4 inches total. It's not a lot.

If you hold the phone farther away from you, you gain some more distance in sweet spot. We're talking about viewing ANGLE, so smaller changes to the angle when you are farther away. Of course that negates screen size perception...

Yep, limitation of glassless 3D. The tech definitely has room for improvement. kinda wishing we had the lenticular array :) though I suspect that would be more costly and possibly more power-intensive.
 
novox77 said:
On the Nintendo 3DS, you had about 1-2 inches of leeway in either direction before you lose the 3D effect. So 2-4 inches total. It's not a lot.
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Just to add that the vertical range isn't (particularly) limited. So the sweet spot is 2-4 inches wide, but rather tall.

If you hold the phone farther away from you, you gain some more distance in sweet spot.
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I've also found I can't hold the 3DS as far away as I'd like. Because once I straighten my arms most of the way, the eye angle separation is actually too narrow and I see some artifacts on the 3D. (Similar to a mild-moire-like banding towards the edges. Really hard to describe.) Anyway, that's an area where it's possible a different parallax tech (3vo's?) could be an improvement.
 
So what are people thoughts on these phones now. I read a post in the S2 forum where a lady said here daughter burned her ear from picking up the phone. Guess the S2 is having heating problems.
 
Moved your post over here to the existing thread for these comparisons.

I guess my takeaway from that story is that no phone is perfect and lemons happen.
 
Panthro said:
So what are people thoughts on these phones now. I read a post in the S2 forum where a lady said here daughter burned her ear from picking up the phone. Guess the S2 is having heating problems.
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Can't really comment on the GS2 because the Sprint version isn't available yet.

As for the EVO 3D, after trying it in the store, I liked certain aspects of it, but it confirmed that I'm not really into the 3D thing. Even if I didn't use the 3D, right now my target phone is still the Photon 4G, as far as what it offers and how much I would use it.
 
I agree with above poster. I played with the Evo 3D and the Nexus S 4G at the Sprint store over the weekend (store had 8 of them in stock-not sure what the big deal was to pre-order for but anyways). Both phones were super fast. The wife and I loaded webpages, took pictures etc. I saw no "real" difference in speed in that regard. Maybe different if I was downloading apps or what not. I liked the dedicated camera button on the 3D but overall the feel of the 3D wasnt great. It felt awkward to hold, the different textures on the back leave a lot to be desired...but I know thats trivial. The Nexus felt great in the hands and overall seemed like a sleeker, nicer phone.

After playing with the 3D options the wife and I came to a quick conclusion it would be a gimmick we simply wouldnt use. However the rest of the phone is nice and I love having the sd card slot. My wife liked the Nexus better overall, but liked the Sense on the Evo 3D and I had to try and explain to her why she couldnt get the Sense on the Nexus. She still doesnt understand. LOL.

Anyways. After all that said, if I was forced to buy one it would be the Evo 3D due to dedicated camera button and sd card slot. But thankfully Im in no hurry even though Im eligable for an upgrade. Ill wait and see how the SGS2 and Photon look and then decide. Who knows, I may still end up with a 3D, but Im not ready to jump yet.
 
I'm still in limbo. I grow more attached to the evo every day but I still find myself lusting after that 32 gigs of internal memory, 8 mp samsung camera, 4.3 inch amoled screen, and yes even slightly touch wiz. I'm turned off by the array of issues I see when I frequent the sgs2 forum, but the sgs2 has some juicy specs. I still might give one a try, unfortunately that means being without the evo for who knows how long before the sprint version released.
 
Im a big big Samsung fan. I love their tv's and blu ray players. But I would never by a Samsung phone. Unless they improve their build quality and device support. So EVO 3D it is. And Im loving it!
 
ArmageddonX said:
Wouldn't it be nice if our Smartphones had power settings like Laptops do? So, we could keep our phones in "Efficiency" mode and extend the battery at the cost of speed & screen brightness. Then when we wanted to play a game or do some heavy usage turn it to "Full Power". It could adjust processing speed, screen brightness, & other little things to make the battery last longer or to really speed it up. If you have a Laptop I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
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they do its called the msm8660! "asynchronous" it even has a built a next generation heat sensor built into the chip. what asynchronous does is basically use only whats needed example: processor 1, is running at 300mgz while processor 2, is running at 1.2ghz...pretty useful for when overclocking. so you can put it back to 1.5 to its original clock speed & this is the only dual core that can do this. others just both run at the same speed & usually at full throttle.
 
viber said:
This is the exact same scenario we went through last year with the Evo 4G vs Epic 4G.

People touted the Epic's great specs and benchmarks, but the Evo was the better pound for pound device. That's still true today after both phones have had a year of firmware updates tweaks and android updates.

Also, Sense is better than Touchwiz, HTC has better quality and support than Samsung, and the performance gap between the Evo3D and Galaxy S2 is much smaller than the gap between the Evo and the Epic, negating the Galaxy S2's main claim to fame.

The Evo experience was never about being the "most powerful smartphone". It's about being more than a smartphone, while the Galaxy S2 experience will have progressed little over the Epic back in 2010.

Sprint and HTC are trying to make the next Wii and PS3 and HDTV in your hand, while Samsung is trying to create the next iPhone before Apple makes it first.
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everything you said is true, another thing i want to add is how useless my samsung vibrant was when my GPS wasnt able to locate me or locate me but was about 500ft off target! so all the apps that use gps will be useless with samsung since they still have the same problem, with the evo 3d its exact down to every step i take. another thing i want to point out is that the MSM8660 was originally supposed to be 1.5ghz but was underclocked, qualcomm knew it would be a battery hog so they made the worlds only "ASYNCHRONOUS" dual processor SOC chipset. what it does is it can use different clock speeds or just 1 processor if you dont need so much processing. so you save alot of power even if you overclock it back to its original 1.5ghz itll most likely only use just a little bit more power since it only uses what is needed, this is another reason why the benchmarks where graphics come to play show low scores. in real life use its just as good for any game that comes out for the next 2 years. you can see how the sony xperia plays playstation games at a constant 60fps off a 1ghz snapdragon with adreno205! so when developers learn to use the most widely used processor already, its only going to get better with the new games. especially 3D games & movies *reality check to those that say 3D is a joke, everything in 3D is better* especially multimedia. imagine app's that use some 3D in it, somthing like a 3D instant messanger for 3D text & pictures,animated gifs. another cool idea would be to make the nect evo3D to have a dual front camera setup for 3D video chats! that would be the craziest thing!
 
I've had my EVO for over a year now. Should I go ahead and get the EVO 3D or wait for another release from Sprint? Or is there any other phones to be released soon that might catch my eye?

[This thread should help others out with there decision on their new phone.]
 
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