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Root [Kernel][GB] KoumaKernel 2.5

RNOGuy said:
OK ... I just tried that and I still only have 119Mb of internal memory showing for my applications when running KK2.0 with CTMod 3.2. Under CTMod 2.5 with KK1.3, I had no problem with the /sd-ext showing up and my memory was ~ 900Mb. My /sd-ext partition is 1024 and swap is 0. I event pulled the SD Card, repartitioned it and get the same results. Any ideas on what to try?
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:rolleyes:

Koumajutsu said:
What do you mean by it not mounting your data?
I am running what I would believe to be the exact same configuration and it's working fine.

if you're looking in your settings>Storage Settings>Available space, then you should know that this is an inaccurate number. It's is just as inaccurate as running DT's A2SD.

Proof can be seen at Settings>Application Settings>Storage Use. You can probably add up just the first 2-3 items and compare it to the number at the bottom and see that they don't match.

The most accurate measure of your available space is to open a terminal and type "df" without quotes

Example:
Code: 
# df
df
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                   145180        80    145100   0% /dev
tmpfs                   145180         0    145180   0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs                   145180         0    145180   0% /mnt/obb
/dev/stl14               95744      4152     91592   4% /cache
/dev/stl13              163768     37452    126316  23% /data
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2   1818512    117759   1603732   7% /data/app
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3   1910100    102684   1710388   6% /data/dalvik-cache
/dev/stl12              164272    101164     63108  62% /system
/dev/block/vold/179:1     3873268   1406108   2467160  36% /mnt/sdcard
/dev/block/vold/179:1     3873268   1406108   2467160  36% /mnt/secure/asec

This shows me that my /dev/stl13 is 23% full, and has about 37megs used (the phone claims 27Megs)
It also shows how much I have in apps, and cache, (6-7% of my maximum, which is already damn near twice what the internal could handle on it's own)

So, go take a look at your true numbers and see if things make a bit more sense
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They are so related to each other its hard for me to split the questions up between the two forums. Im not sure what im asking at this point, I was hoping to have it all explained, blood answered something or other one last time. Hey man Im not as educated on this stuff as most of you, and Im just trying to understand it all. Im not going to apologize for asking questions or asking them in the wrong place n'shit. I have read all the posts. After ct.2.5 & kk1.2 i got lost. I was following along for the most part up to then. My original question is in the ctmod post. So for the last time answer my question. ha ha laughinloud.
 
If I don't understand your answers at first then show a little patients. I'm not trying to be cocky or start stupid shit, I just expect a little respect here and there, since I'm not smart like you.
 
Looking for a professional detailed answer without the attitude. In the past ive asked questions and stated some things and did not always understand the answers., and on a few occasions didnt care for some of those answers. Emoticons don't do much justice on top of not being able to see facial expressions or hear an intended pitch in ones voice, with that in mind if I'm reading into the texts all wrong and taking it out of, text, well then I apologize. ..
 
By the way roguefox, this isn't towards you. I just scrolled up and read again what you posted, I didn't want you to think I was responding to you.
My questions have to do with both as they are related to each other. I wish I could put the questions into better technical lingo, but I'm not even sure what the hell I'm talking about at this point.
 
Allow myself to quote myself from my post in the ctmod forum:

I've been through all the posts here and at the koumakernel's posts, but I'm confused about the different changes now. I just did a new setup on my phone and have:
CTMod 2.5
KoumaKernel 1.2
Sandisk 16GB class 4 -2048 partition/0 swap

Right now I have no apps installed, all is fine. I like how this setup works as far as the apps installing to/running from the card's partition but from what I now understand the new CTMod 3.2 removes that.

If I install the new 3.2 then do I need to reinstall kk1.2 again to get the apps2sd function again?, or how does this relate to the new kk2.0 with this new 3.2 mod since the new kernel splits your sdcard into 3 partitions?

I might be reading into this wrong, can you guys explain to me what the difference is, or how this new setup works with the 3-partitions or maybe what would be the best combination for me between the two, or should I just stay where I'm at?
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Ok, i think i know why you are confused... With kennels that use Hroark's solution ( meaning they mount sd ext as /data, or move all of user data to the ext) the phone reads the ext as /data. Meaning menu> settings> storage will accurately display available memory.

The new kk (2.0) only moves /data/app (or only user apps, not settings, dalvik, text messages, or anything else considered 'user data') to the ext. the rest is left on the real /data

The storage menu inaccurately displays available memory as a result of this.

The kernel also has the SECRET ability to mount the swap partition as dalvik cache (if formatted to ext 4)
Kouma hasn't clearly explained how to do this in one place as it's 'super secret' there are clues in his posts on how to do this...

If you open terminal emulator and type
Code: 
 df
It will display all of the partitions (named by their mount points) and information on their size and available space

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Note it gives the mount point (dev/block/*) followed by its purpose

For example dev/block/mmvblk0p2 is sd-ext (also in my case /data because i use a kernel that mounts the entire /data partition to sd-ext)

This accurately displays the available memory

so, in short, just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean it's not there and being used

(unless u view df and still don't see it, then it's really not there. Lol)

And if you still confused, please ask specific questions.
or if i miss understood you question all together, please try to rephrase it differently, or direct me to the correct post.
 
Mount
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$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ mount
rootfs on / type rootfs (ro,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,mode=600)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
none on /acct type cgroup (rw,relatime,cpuacct)
tmpfs on /mnt/asec type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755,gid=1000)
tmpfs on /mnt/obb type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755,gid=1000)
/dev/stl14 on /cache type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/stl13 on /data type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 on /data/app type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
/dev/stl12 on /system type ext4 (ro,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc)
none on /dev/cpuctl type cgroup (rw,relatime,cpu)
/dev/block/vold/179:1 on /mnt/sdcard type vfat (rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/block/vold/179:1 on /mnt/secure/asec type vfat (rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure type tmpfs (ro,relatime,size=0k,mode=000)
$
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DF
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$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 145180 80 145100 0% /dev
tmpfs 145180 0 145180 0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs 145180 0 145180 0% /mnt/obb
/dev/stl14 95744 6300 89444 7% /cache
/dev/stl13 163768 45092 118676 28% /data
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 491892 10716 481176 2% /data/app
/dev/stl12 164272 101264 63008 62% /system
/dev/block/vold/179:1
3399084 152 3398932 0% /mnt/sdcard
df: /mnt/secure/asec: Permission denied
$
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ps.
just in case it matters i was running PDAnet while using terminal emulator XP
 
Lordvincent 90 said:
Ok, i think i know why you are confused... With kennels that use Hroark's solution ( meaning they mount sd ext as /data, or move all of user data to the ext) the phone reads the ext as /data. Meaning menu> settings> storage will accurately display available memory.

The new kk (2.0) only moves /data/app (or only user apps, not settings, dalvik, text messages, or anything else considered 'user data') to the ext. the rest is left on the real /data

The storage menu inaccurately displays available memory as a result of this.

The kernel also has the SECRET ability to mount the swap partition as dalvik cache (if formatted to ext 4)
Kouma hasn't clearly explained how to do this in one place as it's 'super secret' there are clues in his posts on how to do this...

If you open terminal emulator and type
Code: 
 df
It will display all of the partitions (named by their mount points) and information on their size and available space

ScreenShot-15.png


Note it gives the mount point (dev/block/*) followed by its purpose

For example dev/block/mmvblk0p2 is sd-ext (also in my case /data because i use a kernel that mounts the entire /data partition to sd-ext)

This accurately displays the available memory

so, in short, just because you can't see it, it doesn't mean it's not there and being used

(unless u view df and still don't see it, then it's really not there. Lol)

And if you still confused, please ask specific questions.
or if i miss understood you question all together, please try to rephrase it differently, or direct me to the correct post.
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guess this means ive been on a whild goose chase?

i installed apps and the internal memory did go down significantly.
so it seems everything was still going into internal.

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i ust want everything the way it was with sd-ext.
just simple that way.
will i have to install that older version of kk?
 
DF
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$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 145180 80 145100 0% /dev
tmpfs 145180 0 145180 0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs 145180 0 145180 0% /mnt/obb
/dev/stl14 95744 6300 89444 7% /cache
/dev/stl13 163768 45092 118676 28% /data
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 491892 10716 481176 2% /data/app
/dev/stl12 164272 101264 63008 62% /system
/dev/block/vold/179:1
3399084 152 3398932 0% /mnt/sdcard
df: /mnt/secure/asec: Permission denied
$
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ps.
just in case it matters i was running PDAnet while using terminal emulator XP
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you have a .5gb partition with 10mb of app installed on it and ~481mb available. It is working.
 
The reason internal g goes down is the dalvik cache is on internal, sms/mms is on internal, your personal settings are on internal, your contracts are on internal, just apps are on sd, if you want everything on ext, you need a kernel which supports that... So, yes an older version is needed
 
Bug report... maybe.

On CTmod 3.2, KK 2.0. I've been running fine for a few days until last night I noticed the custom skin on Beautiful Widgets reset to default. When i attempted to change it back, the skin was listed in the Installed Skins section with no picture next to it. Re-downloading the skin did not help either. I tried another skin and it did not work. Weather skins would not change either. I tried un-installing and re-installing BW, at which point several other skins I had deleted reappeared with no picture. I then tried deleting the app data in titanium backup and then factory resetting the phone, all to no effect.

After factory resetting the phone, things started to go crazy. Apparently it didn't delete any of the APKs, so when the phone booted, I started getting force closes on a bunch of stuff. (I remember seeing Swype and Poweramp). I ended up doing a full rom and kernel reinstall to get it straight.

I'll keep an eye on it to see if it goes wonky again. In the meantime, does anyone know where the apps store data like the downloaded skins at in the phone? i was looking in file explorer and root explorer to try and delete them, but could not locate them at all. Also, what would be the viability of putting BW into the internal memory? apkinstaller.zip, something with root explorer?
 
I had the same issue but I got it working after wiping data , uninstalling, wiping Dalvik cache, rebooting and re-installing .

I didn't think it's a problem with the kernel since I had been doing some modding with the phone right before it happened . Anyways , it's fixed and hasn't done it since last night . I'll keep an eye on it though . :D


Try installing a CWM backup next time . I know it's saved my butt a lot of work on many occasions . :D
 
wetbiker7 said:
I didn't think it's a problem with the kernel since I had been doing some modding with the phone right before it happened . Anyways , it's fixed and hasn't done it since last night . I'll keep an eye on it though . :D

Try installing a CWM backup next time . I know it's saved my butt a lot of work on many occasions . :D
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I fresh installed to see if it was something repeatable that was wrong w/ the app, and not just something i did. Heck, I end up redoing the phone once every couple weeks because of all these updates, doesn't take long. But thanks for reminding to make a fresh backup, I think i'm still backed up on KK 1.5.:D
 
Bloodawn said:
yea, 1.3 is what comes with it. if he wants that feature all he has to do is install the original 1.3.
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I didn't find the original 1.3 so I just got 1.2 (what I had before)
Now everything is back to norm.
I spend everyday since you released the new mod trying to make sd-ext into the /data
XP lolz
Was up till 3 most days.
 
Rarewolf said:
I didn't find the original 1.3 so I just got 1.2 (what I had before)
Now everything is back to norm.
I spend everyday since you released the new mod trying to make sd-ext into the /data
XP lolz
Was up till 3 most days.
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1.2 and 1.3 are pretty much the same.
1.3 was something Hrorak did to show me how to use part of the compiler toolchain
 
I just finished installing FA19 Gingerbread Rooted Image with CWM5 by Koumajutsu. Every time I try to flash KoumaKernel 2.0 it just hangs on the logo screen when booting. Does it take a long time to boot for the first time? I've been waiting over 5 minutes.
I reflashed the phone. Partitioned the SD card. Factory wiped. Still hangs at the boot screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
 
cadis12 said:
I just finished installing FA19 Gingerbread Rooted Image with CWM5 by Koumajutsu. Every time I try to flash KoumaKernel 2.0 it just hangs on the logo screen when booting. Does it take a long time to boot for the first time? I've been waiting over 5 minutes.
I reflashed the phone. Partitioned the SD card. Factory wiped. Still hangs at the boot screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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KK2.0 does not support RFS filesystems anymore.
If you want FA19 stock and KK2.0, install HalfAssRom
 
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