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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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yeah I've signed up on it, and it's suppose to send an e-mail the moment that the phone becomes available. . lol no e-mail yet
 
jinwons said:
Well, if you looked at Fascinate forum late last year and early this year, there were a lot of upset Fascinate users about their too slow updates on Froyo. Nexus S launched with Gingerbread release and was always first in gingerbread updates and had 199 pricing on two years contract. However Fascinate was plagued with RFS files, old Touchwiz and Bing, not to mention slow updates. Plus it has pathetic 2Gb of internal memory vs 16Gb plenty on Nexus S. Many fascinate users here said they would jump onto Nexus S if verizon had it. Nexus S was only available on T-mobile for first several months, and that was holding it back on better sales.
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Now it seems you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I guess you can speculate these "if this phone was on this carrier" scenarios to no end. All I have to say is look at the number of posts on this forum:

Nexus S = 7,097
Nexus S 4G = 2,767
Samsung Fascinate = 43,823
Samsung Vibrant = 21,146
Samsung Captivate = 63,723

Don't forget that all the Samsung phones listed are for only one carrier, while the Nexus S is for 3 carriers. Even with the Nexus S later release, I think these numbers speak for themselves. The Nexus S was a dismal failure. IMO, being released on Verizon wouldn't have made much of a difference.

There is no proof (only speculation) that Prime will have the latest and greatest components. I wouldn't be surprised if it came with a 1.2GHz processor (see what history has shown). Until there is leaked specs, I am not commiting to it. Hopefully, something will leak by the time the Bionic releases. I prefer Samsung phones over Moto because of the better display and easier rooting/flashing.
 
I agree that the reason the Nexus devices didn't sell well is because of lack of marketing.

No one I know (which are admittedly mostly Verizon or AT&T customers) even knows what a Nexus device is. To them, there are only 2 different kinds of phones: An iPhone and a Droid.

That tells you how smart Google is for releasing the Prime under the "Droid" moniker.

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charlie310 said:
Now it seems you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I guess you can speculate these "if this phone was on this carrier" scenarios to no end. All I have to say is look at the number of posts on this forum:

Nexus S = 7,097
Nexus S 4G = 2,767
Samsung Fascinate = 43,823
Samsung Vibrant = 21,146
Samsung Captivate = 63,723

Don't forget that all the Samsung phones listed are for only one carrier, while the Nexus S is for 3 carriers. Even with the Nexus S later release, I think these numbers speak for themselves. The Nexus S was a dismal failure. IMO, being released on Verizon wouldn't have made much of a difference.
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Am I arguing for the sake of arguing? I never said Nexus S would have sold better than original SGS. I only said it would have done better if it was available on verizon when it launched. You failed to note that it was available on only T-mobile until early summer. How could it sell better than original SGS when it came several months later and only on T-mobile with poor marketing?

You can't say Droid prime wouldn't succeed just because of what happened with Nexus S. It's getting top notch spec of time unlike Nexus S. It's getting Droid branding/marketing from Verizon, which none of previous nexus got. Releasing phone only on t-mobile with lackluster marketing, limited availability is recipe for failure. And that's not the case for Droid Prime.
 
cereal killer said:
I love Grandmadroid :)

boy thats a hotly debated topic. Read up here first so you can be brought up to speed. I personally am NOT a fan of it. Pentile LCD's are awful in my opinion. So bad they are a dealbreaker.

Anyway here you go:

AnandTech - The Motorola Atrix 4G Preview
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That's an interesting statement, CK. So if the Nexus Prime is Super AMOLED HD with the pentile arrangement, is that a deal breaker for you? Certainly at WVGA, it was a deal breaker for me. I hated it on the Incredible, and love the real stripe on the Charge. Was realling hoping the LITI process would be used for a future qHD/HD SA+ display, but with all this talk about squeaking more out of the shadow mask process, I guess not. I'm hoping, as Jinwons asserts, that it becomes a non-factor at HD. From what I've heard, pentile is still a handicap at qHD resolution.
 
jinwons said:
Am I arguing for the sake of arguing? I never said Nexus S would have sold better than original SGS. I only said it would have done better if it was available on verizon when it launched. You failed to note that it was available on only T-mobile until early summer. How could it sell better than original SGS when it came several months later and only on T-mobile with poor marketing?

You can't say Droid prime wouldn't succeed just because of what happened with Nexus S. It's getting top notch spec of time unlike Nexus S. It's getting Droid branding/marketing from Verizon, which none of previous nexus got. Releasing phone only on t-mobile with lackluster marketing, limited availability is recipe for failure. And that's not the case for Droid Prime.
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Yes, you are arguing for the sake of arguing. Here is what you said verbatim:
jinwons said:
If verizon got Nexus S, I am sure it would have done even better than Fascinate.
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If you actually read my posts, you'll see that I never said the Droid Prime won't succeed because of the Nexus S. I said previous Nexus phones haven't been all that great, so I am not going to wait for the Nexus Prime on pure speculation. So, you are arguing a point I never made.
 
charlie310 said:
Yes, you are arguing for the sake of arguing. Here is what you said verbatim:


If you actually read my posts, you'll see that I never said the Droid Prime won't succeed because of the Nexus S. I said previous Nexus phones haven't been all that great, so I am not going to wait for the Nexus Prime on pure speculation. So, you are arguing a point I never made.
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You are just nit picking on my words rather than getting my points though I admit my comment was somewhat confusion or misleading. I didn't mean it would have sold better than Fascinate. But it would have received well by power users on forums like this who got fed up with slow updates, laggy softwares on it. Also if Verizon released Nexus S instead of Fascinate in September last year, it could have sold better actually.

As for Droid Prime, three things are almost certain now, HD screen, 1.5Ghz OMAP4 processor and ICS from get go. That's not just speculation. Plus there will be serious marketing push from Google, Verizon.
 
The_Chief said:
I know it's a week old, but I hadn't seen this article posted:

Report: Verizon Targets Samsung Droid Prime at iPhone 5 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

It speculates a Verizon launch as Droid Prime in October :D and as Nexus Prime on the other carriers later but in Q4. Also has some tidbits on ICS.
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Interesting... I wish they are right.:)
I don't care whether it's named as Nexus or Droid as long as it comes to verizon with those spec list (HD, 1.5ghz dual core, LTE, ICS, etc).
 
jinwons said:
You are just nit picking on my words rather than getting my points. I didn't mean it would have sold better than Fascinate. But it would have received well by power users on forums like this who got fed up with slow updates, laggy softwares on it.
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I am not nit picking your words, or taking your words out of context. I'm just pointing out how you contradict yourself:

jinwons said:
If verizon got Nexus S, I am sure it would have done even better than Fascinate.
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jinwons said:
I never said Nexus S would have sold better than original SGS. I only said it would have done better if it was available on verizon when it launched.
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If you didnt' mean it would have sold better than the Fascinate, then don't say it would. Plain and simple.

jinwons said:
As for Droid Prime, three things are almost certain now, HD screen, 1.5Ghz OMAP4 processor and ICS from get go. That's not just speculation.
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You are contradicting yourself again. "Almost certain" is speculation. The only thing that is confirmed is that it will be running ICS and it will be made my Samsung. Everything else is pure speculation.
 
Honestly I'm not interested in what happened with Nexus S as that's irrelevant to Droid Prime. It will be completely new beast with mind blowing spec, good marketing support dropping on Verizon.
 
magdelaine said:
"No I didn't!"
"Yes you did"
"No I didn't!"
"Yes you did, nanny nanny poo poo!"

Let it go Charlie.:rolleyes:

I hear enough of that from my 9 year old and 6 year old.
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We're just having a conversation (unintelligent as it may be). Sorry, if I offended you and your avatar. I find it amusing when people don't make any sense.

FYI, I may even wait for the Droid Prime. So, let's not "attack the dissenter".
 
Holy Cow I just caught GrandmaDroid on camera! She really took this serious......

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Healthy debate is good, except when they start to get personal. Please read the site rules linked in my signature and get back on track. Some mods may delete some of this conversation, but I'm going to let it stay for now and just leave this note.

Future personal attackers will have to be given infractions. Consider this the umpire's warning to the both benches. :)

Steven
 
Ok, well everywhere that I have looked so far it is said that ICS will run on OpenGL on the GPU, ,which is GREAT GREAT GREAT.

In the videos that I have also watched for ICS it was also said that it will be running on OpenGL on the GPU FULLY, meaning not in just some certain apps or times, BUT some phones will have the option to not use it, or activate it at certain times. (Sorry don't remember what it said about the last part very well)
 
red66charger said:
Apple is doing a pretty good job of shooting themselves in the foot lately. They just went and killed their Final Cut Pro video editing software franchise this summer. Not sure what they were thinking.
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This was not an accident of Apple's. They are consciously jettisoning their professional user base (discontinuing Xserve and replacing the terrific FCS with newbie'ish FCP-X), presumably to focus on high volume mainstream and prosumer products. But they apparently took to heart the awful feedback and publicity and are now reintroducing Final Cut Studio.

kyler13 said:
That's an interesting statement, CK. So if the Nexus Prime is Super AMOLED HD with the pentile arrangement, is that a deal breaker for you? Certainly at WVGA, it was a deal breaker for me.
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From what I've heard, pentile is still a handicap at qHD resolution.
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Pentile at WVGA would be a non-starter for me. At qHD I'd take a look in person but still doubt I'd want to live with it. But at HD I'm expecting the advantages finally to outweigh the disadvantages. Every technology has compromises, and I think Pentile finally wins at HD.
 
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