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Root [ROM][ALPHA] Triumph CM9 v0.6.17.0 [FINAL]

Mantera is and should be all of our heroes, he gave us the latest and greatest version of android yet, on a phone that has potential but an ignorant carrier, all this complaining is what makes him want to stop, i am very grateful and appreciative that he has done what he has done, and still continues to get better and better, hes trying his hardest and if you know how to port and do this stuff, then help him, but he knows what he's doing. The camera is probably what he tries the hardest at, and he'll get it, eventually.
 
the backlight has settings inside display, but there is also some for display and soft keys(captive buttons) inside the cyanogen setting usually, i actually think the advanced backlight setting may control the soft keys


and ive got nothing but love for all the hard work mantera's putting in here, lately we've been seeing updates faster and there including lead way into fixing other issues

but


the camera is non-important to pretty much most of us, were used to it and ok with it not working, especially in alpha stage, and the little fixes and tweaks are for stability, the truth is our phones are Only supposed to run froyo, just the fact that we all can get gingerbread and ics because of the devs work is amazing, and there arnt 1 million devs working on this so there isnt 1 person assigned to fixing it, most roms have 1 dev, who usually give thanks to oterh devs who thru there hats in for fixes and helped out

It's one of the the biggest features on your phone and you'd rather have minuscule updates that don't do much, other than add some "stability" (I had the rom about 2 months ago, and I highly doubt it's any different now than it it was then, minus the Sense multitasking and the ability to change the lockscreen). I'm not trying to discredit the devs but I'm just saying they should probably focus more on the bigger things rather than just holding off on it.
 
i just know how difficult it is, ive programmed for pc's in visual basic, C and C++ and when i look at our phones codes i can only make sense of half lol
just to have an images on a screen, usually reffered to as GUI(Graphical User Interface) takes thousands and thousands of lines of code, in which if u make one tiny mistake will throw so many errors at you you'll think about deleting everything and starting over


the issue is our phone arnt supposed to have ICS at all, and android changed the way the camera operates and how the system loads the actual camera in ICS, and without an official ICS on our phones the devs are basically working in the dark to fix it
 
The updates over the past 2 months have been very miniscule. Other than adding a few features here and there, there's not that much of a difference between this build and a 1-2month old build.I'd much rather have a camera working than these super small new features. Isn't that how production goes anyway? Get the BIG main things out of the way, then you work on the small things. I almost feel like these updates are just to keep us under the illusion that there's still hope.

The simple fact is that most of the CM9 ports do not yet have working cameras. There are examples of people who have been working on this issue almost exclusively, but they also have yet to come out with even a partial fix. Without the code from the camera and phone manufacturers, developers are forced to figure it out on their own. Some have come up with partial fixes, but it only works for those particular phones with those specific cameras.

Under best circumstances, we would get a camera if someone focused on it exclusively. There is no guarantee of a result if you look at what has been going on in the web with other phones and cameras. This could mean no camera and no other fixes either. This is the point that seems to be missed here.

Really, if the camera is that important, one of the ROMs with the working camera should be considered. You can always come back to CM9 if and when there is a fix.
 
Okay folks, remember that the developers (in this case mantera) are doing this in their own free time and making what they do available to everyone else for free. It's completely fine to make requests, but it is much more likely to be considered if you do so nicely. Making demands surely won't help your case.

Also, I edited a few posts here and feel obligated to share this with you all from the Site Rules/Guidelines:
Please treat other members with respect. These forums were put together for Android fans to come together and help each other, collaborate and discuss in a positive way – not bash on someone because you don't like their idea, or because they don't share the same views as you. We are big into the free speech idea here. So you're free to say what you think – but do it in a constructive, positive, 'add to the conversation' kinda way – not the condescending 'I don't like what you're saying so you suck' kinda way. We encourage mature debates – discourage childish arguments.

With that said, if you see something that violates the rules (or even if you find it questionable) just hit the report button and let the moderators know.

Thanks for your understanding.
 
I have noticed this also. I have switched over from MIUI where it didn't take long at all to charge the battery. But on this ROM it takes quite a while. :confused:

I think its the charger port that is giving me the problem recently. It was always very picky on which cable I use. The one that was working for me is now not working well. I might have to call up virgin mobile for replacement. Dust on the bottom right of the device is getting worse as well.
ROM is working great. thanks!
 
Is it possible to just flash the knew update over the old without doing. Factory data reset? Also I can I do the same with the gapps?
 
It's one of the the biggest features on your phone and you'd rather have minuscule updates that don't do much, other than add some "stability" (I had the rom about 2 months ago, and I highly doubt it's any different now than it it was then, minus the Sense multitasking and the ability to change the lockscreen). I'm not trying to discredit the devs but I'm just saying they should probably focus more on the bigger things rather than just holding off on it.


Well what are YOU doing to try and get the camera working?
 
The simple fact is that most of the CM9 ports do not yet have working cameras. There are examples of people who have been working on this issue almost exclusively, but they also have yet to come out with even a partial fix. Without the code from the camera and phone manufacturers, developers are forced to figure it out on their own. Some have come up with partial fixes, but it only works for those particular phones with those specific cameras.

Under best circumstances, we would get a camera if someone focused on it exclusively. There is no guarantee of a result if you look at what has been going on in the web with other phones and cameras. This could mean no camera and no other fixes either. This is the point that seems to be missed here.

Really, if the camera is that important, one of the ROMs with the working camera should be considered. You can always come back to CM9 if and when there is a fix.
I don't consider this to be a ROM. This is an update, it has a whole new operating system on it. You can't just be like "yeah, go back to CM7" because they are not one of the same. I feel like no one's dedicating time to the camera and I see no reason why we should be left in the dark as far as production is going. In the OP he also states that the 'bigger' things will be fixed, then the small things will get patched. It seems to be the other way around.
 
Well what are YOU doing to try and get the camera working?

Trust me, if I had Linux on here and had everything to work with, I'd work as much as I can (since I've got nothing better to do). I don't have the patience to set up a dual boot because my computer already takes ages to start up anyway.
 
I feel like no one's dedicating time to the camera and I see no reason why we should be left in the dark as far as production is going. In the OP he also states that the 'bigger' things will be fixed, then the small things will get patched. It seems to be the other way around.

The developers get to decide how they spend their time on this. They are not getting paid for it. Remember that. The only way to guarantee that the thing being worked on is the same thing you put as priority #1 is to do the work yourself. You can ask others to work on it, but they get to decide how to spend their own free time.
 
The developers get to decide how they spend their time on this. They are not getting paid for it. Remember that. The only way to guarantee that the thing being worked on is the same thing you put as priority #1 is to do the work yourself. You can ask others to work on it, but they get to decide how to spend their own free time.
Hmm. What would I need if I decided to do that?
 
Hmm. What would I need if I decided to do that?

Well, I would recommend reading some of these:
http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/462943-discussion-developers-_only_-building-ics-source-isaacs-github-16.html#post3845472

http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/533110-dev-cm7-building-development.html

http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/388798-build-cyanogenmod7-source-development-area.html

The last two focus on CM7, but the basic setup and concepts are the same. You just have to make some minor changes for the ICS stuff instead of GB (i.e. you pull different repos).
 
What is with the different task switcher in teh rom? I just came back from a cm7 sabbatical and this new switcher sucks. How do you get the old CM9 one back? Otherwise its awesome!
 
The updates over the past 2 months have been very miniscule. Other than adding a few features here and there, there's not that much of a difference between this build and a 1-2month old build.I'd much rather have a camera working than these super small new features. Isn't that how production goes anyway? Get the BIG main things out of the way, then you work on the small things. I almost feel like these updates are just to keep us under the illusion that there's still hope.

There has been alot more then just a few small updates, if you go from the first to this one you will notice mad things that have change, it becomes more and more like ICS what about the updates that aint an app or something you can use thats behind everything that makes your phone run better. I never seen so many people freak out over a camera that they will probally barely use after it works.
 
What is with the different task switcher in teh rom? I just came back from a cm7 sabbatical and this new switcher sucks. How do you get the old CM9 one back? Otherwise its awesome!

Really?
I thought it was killer! :D

Edit, while I'm at it:

I've been on CM7 lately too, so skipped a couple updates.

Just want to thank Mantera for adding aricblunk's auto back light values from CM7 reloaded.... Great improvement!
 
I wish everyone could support the developers instead of criticizing. I can't do the work myself due to my lack of development skills, so I am certainly grateful for the continued dedication of everyone working on this.
I would imagine that anyone complaining is also lacking in development skills or else they would be working on the camera themselves. That is okay.. not everyone is a developer, but let's support the people who have chosen to designate their free time to share their work to enrich the user experience of this phone. Otherwise, we will discourage those who can work on these ROMs by our ungratefulness.

If the camera was really irritating me, I would research how to work on it myself.. until then I will gladly to continue using the ROMs that offer working cameras.. remember that all of these ROMs are better than stock with or without camera.. thanks to the DEVS! :D

[Moderators, forgive me for venturing off the thread's topic, I usually don't post much, but I felt I needed to post this in support of the developers and to enlighten those who do not understand these people are dedicating their free time for US... continue on!]
 
Well, I would recommend reading some of these:
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...-ics-source-isaacs-github-16.html#post3845472

http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/533110-dev-cm7-building-development.html

http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ild-cyanogenmod7-source-development-area.html

The last two focus on CM7, but the basic setup and concepts are the same. You just have to make some minor changes for the ICS stuff instead of GB (i.e. you pull different repos).

I think I'm gonna take a dive into this tomorrow :)
 
That camera will definitely be fixed one day. We all just need to have patience... Alpha means alpha. This is actually a very stable alpha, to me, when I ran it a while back. Remember, it takes many months to develop quality software...
 
I wish everyone could support the developers instead of criticizing. I can't do the work myself due to my lack of development skills, so I am certainly grateful for the continued dedication of everyone working on this.
I would imagine that anyone complaining is also lacking in development skills or else they would be working on the camera themselves. That is okay.. not everyone is a developer, but let's support the people who have chosen to designate their free time to share their work to enrich the user experience of this phone. Otherwise, we will discourage those who can work on these ROMs by our ungratefulness.

If the camera was really irritating me, I would research how to work on it myself.. until then I will gladly to continue using the ROMs that offer working cameras.. remember that all of these ROMs are better than stock with or without camera.. thanks to the DEVS! :D

[Moderators, forgive me for venturing off the thread's topic, I usually don't post much, but I felt I needed to post this in support of the developers and to enlighten those who do not understand these people are dedicating their free time for US... continue on!]

while I agree, I don't see any of this in the thread.
 
Thanks for all of the support everybody.


For anyone that's having troubles with the softkeys not lighting up, you can do one of the following for now:

1. Enable automatic brightness: System settings --> Display --> Brightness
and check the box for Automatic brightness.

or

2. If you don't want to use the automatic brightness, you can do this but this will only work until the you reboot, then you need to do it again:
a. Enable Automatic brightness.
b. Click OK.
c. Disable Automatic brightness. The softkey LED's will work now as expected--until you reboot.
 
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