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LG G3 Pre-release/Rumor/Speculation Thread

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Steven58 said:
Go quietly? What are you nuts? Feel free to hack away at the g3. It's only a phone. People & relationships are far more important than phones, obviously? Please remain here. It's nice to hang out with you again. Just like old times? :-)
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wise man, what can I say?

all those toys will be obsolete one short year from now.

however, some of us will still be here. obsolete too, but still going..going..going..Energizer bunny old farts :D
 
AntimonyER said:
I would be all over the M8, but my buddy has one and it won't get an LTE signal, while the S5, M7, and my DNA will at my desk. G2 will as well. I am guessing due to the metal case. This is on VZW.
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Then it's defective.

I don't know why people put up with defective phones and decide it's a design issue but they do.

The metal case has nothing to do with it. The active antenna technology works. This metal case meme needs to die.

I've seen the design question come up with plastic HTCs too.

I was out in the desert today and didn't lose signal when others did. Drove into Albuquerque, was the first or maybe second to pick up LTE, next to the S5 and an iPhone.

And I'm on Sprint, even roaming into Verizon last out in the desert. Hardly the sweetheart reception scenario! :rofl:

To all reading - I don't care what you buy, but check out reception (and everything else) and exercise your consumer rights, right away.

Never hope that an update or rooting will fix bad hardware.

Never give up on your first choice for another model unless a) it's a coin toss for liking a different model or b) you try first to see if you're the victim of a lemon.

Regardless of Internet Wisdom, they crank these things out like matchbooks and expect you to return bad ones rather than spend the money and drive costs up testing every thing on every one.

And yes, watch out for open box replacements - a lot of these bozos will take back a lemon and pass it on to the next guy. :mad:
 
meganoobie said:
I can say, what I enjoy most is the loud, clean sound from the headphones, so if you can get past the camera, you're probably making the right call. I'm less worried about the G3 battery because it sounds pretty amazing unless you hammer the screen, and for my usage purposes, those will almost always be planned events that I can pack another battery or external charger. Not sure how to pm (really am a noobie), but if you have any questions for me I'm always around.
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EarlyMon said:
Then it's defective.

I don't know why people put up with defective phones and decide it's a design issue but they do.

The metal case has nothing to do with it. The active antenna technology works. This metal case meme needs to die.

I've seen the design question come up with plastic HTCs too.

I was out in the desert today and didn't lose signal when others did. Drove into Albuquerque, was the first or maybe second to pick up LTE, next to the S5 and an iPhone.

And I'm on Sprint, even roaming into Verizon last out in the desert. Hardly the sweetheart reception scenario! :rofl:

To all reading - I don't care what you buy, but check out reception (and everything else) and exercise your consumer rights, right away.

Never hope that an update or rooting will fix bad hardware.

Never give up on your first choice for another model unless a) it's a coin toss for liking a different model or b) you try first to see if you're the victim of a lemon.

Regardless of Internet Wisdom, they crank these things out like matchbooks and expect you to return bad ones rather than spend the money and drive costs up testing every thing on every one.

And yes, watch out for open box replacements - a lot of these bozos will take back a lemon and pass it on to the next guy. :mad:
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I'm not sure what the problem is, but it is what it is. This is his second M8, and they were both the same. He doesn't care because his desk is further in the middle of the building, he won't get an LTE signal no matter what. I'm right next to the window, so some LTE signals make it to my desk. I've got - 114 right now, it's barely holding on, and I'll lose it if I plug it in to charge. We are all convinced our company is actively trying to reduce cell phone signal for private cell phones. They have a wifi network that company blackberries and tablets can connect to for data. About three months ago T-Mobile fired up an LTE tower very close by, all the tmo folks were living the high life. Then about a month ago, it disappeared. People called in, and tmo said all towers that are in our area are working as they should. The Conspiracy theorists amongst my co-workers think my company paid them to decommission the tower, or are actively jamming the signal. I don't know if I believe those things, but it is funny that while the networks are supposedly being built out to give more people better signal, ours (no matter what provider) just continues to get worse.
 
AntimonyER said:
I'm not sure what the problem is, but it is what it is. This is his second M8, and they were both the same. He doesn't care because his desk is further in the middle of the building, he won't get an LTE signal no matter what. I'm right next to the window, so some LTE signals make it to my desk. I've got - 114 right now, it's barely holding on, and I'll lose it if I plug it in to charge. We are all convinced our company is actively trying to reduce cell phone signal for private cell phones. They have a wifi network that company blackberries and tablets can connect to for data. About three months ago T-Mobile fired up an LTE tower very close by, all the tmo folks were living the high life. Then about a month ago, it disappeared. People called in, and tmo said all towers that are in our area are working as they should. The Conspiracy theorists amongst my co-workers think my company paid them to decommission the tower, or are actively jamming the signal. I don't know if I believe those things, but it is funny that while the networks are supposedly being built out to give more people better signal, ours (no matter what provider) just continues to get worse.
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Well, Sandroidfan does have some measurements, however anecdotal, that shows an M8 being a few dBm less sensitive.

Public service announcement (not accusing Sandroidfan of not knowing ok): if you have -99 and -94 dBm, then -94 is the BIGGER number. I saved some Samsung fans (SGS4 forum? don't remember) from trading in their phone because they thought their numbers were too small, despite having good reception. You also want to agree on a common app for the comparisons and look at ASU strength rather than dBm, not all phones calculate that the same way.

I sure hope some idiot at your company didn't decide to put up a field damper Anti - despite being illegal they're too easy to come by. Hopefully the towers are simply not tuned properly - you'll test great signals but have more nulls when that happens.

If you're testing in an environment where you're trying to evaluate a null area, all bets are off. Might as well say that phones that need to plug in to chargers have a design flaw.

I have a null bubble in my house, about 8 feet in diameter. Take any phone you like (they've nearly all been here) and you'll get -72 to -62 dBm anywhere in the house. Step into the bubble, signals will drop off to less than -100.

I'm surprised that because your phone barely holds on at -114 dBm and the M8 won't that you've decided that the metal case is the problem. I doubt I'll convince you or your buddies otherwise though. :)

rushmore said:
Yeah, but it's a dry heat :)
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Lol I wish. We're at 42% humidity right now and going into the high 90s. We get this for at least a few weeks every summer.

I know, I know, but remember what Shakespeare said - 'tis not as wide as a Kentucky, nor as deep as a Southeast Asia, but 'tis enough. :p
 
Yeah I dunno. If I am against the window, I have - 100. Every step I take away from the window, signal drops three dbm. My desk is 5 steps from the window.
 
Both the DNA and iPhone have some good reception chops. Makes my S4 seem pathetic and weak. Drop and give me twenty!

Wild to be on the same network with my sons streaming video while my S4 is only able to make calls and text. Wife driving of course :) This has happened many times and now a standard joke on trips. I am the Rodney Dangerfield of signal reception.
 
One of the kids has an iP5.

I go to her house, my reception (on my old phone) drops, hers is great.

She comes here, the roles completely reverse.

The latest theory is that I did something to make her iPhone not work.

Which - I didn't.

Otherwise, yeah, the iPhone is pretty good.

I wrapped my hands around both signal waveguides on my M8 to see the signal loss.

Didn't get any. Going to try this experiment at a number of locations.
 
I was impressed that the case, next to my G2 is just slightly bigger. Impressive compactness for the G3. Hope it drops on Verizon with 3/32 and wireless charging. If not, it's a pass.
 
jimbo1mcm said:
I was impressed that the case, next to my G2 is just slightly bigger. Impressive compactness for the G3. Hope it drops on Verizon with 3/32 and wireless charging. If not, it's a pass.
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Apparently LG can't be bothered to even mention the US market re the roll-out schedule:
LG Newsroom

I guess the US is "among other regions"
 
It is because the first runs were 3/32 units and now they are cranking out 2/16 units for everybody else ;)

I also blame the carriers not named Tmo. Shame on their coverage where I live and roam.
 
EarlyMon said:
I blame the carriers.
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I think I blame LG. LG can decide what it offers to sell to whom and when. Carries muck it up, but it really is LG at the heart of the problem.


Talk Android had this lovely tidbit to say today:
LG has also said that the G3 sold in Europe and Asia will include wireless charging, but that this feature has been added for convenience and will not be included in all variants. The US will likely never see the device with wireless charging.

We might as well hold on to our G2's. By the time they are done, the G3 will be a step down from the G2. What a waste of an opportunity on their part.
 
I'm kinda psyched about my tmo 7 trail. I'm also curious about playing with the iPhone 5s. Wouldn't it funny if "Mr. Android" a.k.a. "Mr. Gnex" goes over to Apple. :p
 
grdh20 said:
I think I blame LG. LG can decide what it offers to sell to whom and when. Carries muck it up, but it really is LG at the heart of the problem.
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You may be right.

I was just thinking about Verizon and the One X - everyone got one, except Verizon customers who months later got a non-equivalent Incredible - and the M7, released later as well.

What's the point of LG saying - available right away in the United States but not until carriers release it with bloatware and btw if we sell direct it's a contract violation?

Everyone on Verizon blamed HTC for not offering to sell the One X and the M7 - except the rest of the country had them already.
 
Steven58 said:
I'm kinda psyched about my tmo 7 trail. I'm also curious about playing with the iPhone 5s. Wouldn't it funny if "Mr. Android" a.k.a. "Mr. Gnex" goes over to Apple. :p
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After a while, everything gets blurred. When I had my 5S I used Chrome as my browser and Gmail. Not a bad phone, but the Iphone 6 will be much better, as will the 3/32 Wireless charging G3.
 
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