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What the heck is the deal with iphone users Vs Android users

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my wife has an HP laptop that is newer and outspecs it by a significant margin. When I'm not on my computer, however, she always reaches for mine because it runs so much faster.

HP is terrible, but chances are she hasn't managed it properly. She needs to reformat her HD. I think macs restrict users from foolishly messing up their computers in such a manner. It's like when daddy makes you pick up your toys.

To clarify, your computer isn't running better because the hardware is made to run OSX. But instead your wife's system is simply bogged down by abuses it's suffered which a mac wouldn't allow.

I could be wrong, but one thing I can guarantee is that reformatting would fix your wife's as good as new. It has nothing to do with special hardware that is made for OSX.
 
Well misterspeed, what a long post indeed.

Well, let's start out with this shall we?

That post, is exactly what I was looking for. That's all you had to say in the first place, and now I understand.

about the shades of red? Yes I actually did know =D. After working with digital large format solvent printers(which kodak is also in btw, and hp, mimaki etc), heat transfer,(i.e. gerber edge), and color matching with screen print inks, I've learned a thing or two about color. =O (all this from design to production I've done it end to end)

Now I must admit I missed the *clients want this* part. My mistake. And by all means, give them what they want. That's why you get paid.

Just a thought here, but why name a file with "/"? Is there a purpose for it?

Also, remote admin with android rocks! I've got my moment set up with ftp to my vpserver, and I ssh into my vps with connectbot occasionally. Very nice thing to have, to say the least.

I understand why in this specific application a mac would be ideal for you.

It would be nice if windows had a unix counterpart, sort of simulboot if you will, but dos is their baby, so it'll never happen.

Most sysadmins I know run straight linux/unix/windows server combo.

About the hardware argument, it seems the hardware your refering to, amd the mac hardware are two different things, and the macs are just remote boxes hooked up to super box's. Is that right?

Also, a lot of what I had said was more of an information dig than an argument, but I believe the correct word is a debate. Hehe.

Thank you for your posts, time, and staying part of the conversation.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
 
my wife has an HP laptop that is newer and outspecs it by a significant margin. When I'm not on my computer, however, she always reaches for mine bec

HP is terrible, but chances are she hasn't managed it properly. She needs to reformat her HD. I think macs restrict users from foolishly messing up their computers in such a manner. It's like when daddy makes you pick up your toys.

To clarify, your computer isn't running better because the hardware is made to run OSX. But instead your wife's system is simply bogged down by abuses it's suffered which a mac wouldn't allow.

I could be wrong, but one thing I can guarantee is that reformatting would fix your wife's as good as new. It has nothing to do with special hardware that is made for OSX.

Yeah keeping a PC running smoothly is an easy task, and why people still can't do it after all these years is mind boggling. But I guess in some cases we are lucky if they know how to hit the power button.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
 
I love my Android phone, love everything Linux, and love Apple. I work with computers for a living, making very good money supporting Windows based servers. But when I come home, I'm on an Apple OS 90% of the time. I have never owned an Iphone, but I have used them and the ipod Touch enough to know that they are great devices. I probably won't get one myself. Why? Well because I like the options I have with tweaking the Android OS. But I'm not going to diss them, because sales alone prove the iphone is a great device, and has changed the way we see cell phones. I would say Iphones are one reason our Android devices exist.

iPhones are GREAT for those who have no interest in tweaking/hacking their phone and just want a smart phone that works well. My mom has an iPhone... Most Android phones are for geeks that like unlocking and having full control of their roms, or just very technical minded people. Bashing Apple is for the immature and uneducated.
 
Symbian --> WinMo --> Android

Wow, I just spent 2 hours (I think) reading every post on here... no platform is perfect.

I like open source, tweaking and playing with options so I'm happy with Android.

Wife has an iPhone which we swapped for a day once. Neither one was happy with other phone. She found my Galaxy too busy with all the widgets, while her phone simply failed to deliver the desired features.

Now I'm happy with android, she is happy with iPhone, everybody's happy!

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Must be a love/hate thing because your still here.

Nah.. rash assumption. I wish it were "love/hate thing," those are the most interesting things in life.

But reading a thread and then posting an agreement about the type of argument going on in the thread is not "love."

I've got to also express this, Iowa: you seem to need to default to an attitude of combativeness in nearly every thread I've seen you appear in. Yipe.

Any of us can do that; heck, I've done it and had to be reminded about it, once to the point of a serious infraction and probation here. Yipe again. ;)

You started two threads indicating a desire or warning that you might leave the forums either by your own choice or by the actions of "others."

A few members, myself included, contributed to one of those threads by expressing the hope that you (actually anybody) would reconsider your responsibility for where you stand with the forums/community and stay.

There's something leaning in the direction of ironic about all of this. Whatever that something is, is it your opinion that it is the fault of "others?"

Don't answer that. :D
 
These "bad feelings" for Apple are fascinating. I have an Apple iMac and an Apple MacBook Pro, and would have gone for an iPhone a long time ago if Verizon offered them. The AT&T coverage in my area just plain sucks. Apple was and is an innovator of our modern "smart phones," and I wonder if there even would be an HTC were it not for Apple.

I like my HTC Incredible, it's innovative, it's fun, but I don't for a moment think it is as elegant thought out as the latest iPhones. Plus, the tech support for Apple products is pretty good, by phone, by message board and in person. Verizon's tech support is, well, several rungs lower on the ladder, and google's tech support for its apps is non-existent.

Why knock Apple? Most of us have choices...what matters is development of the smartphone concept and the products spun off.
 
These "bad feelings" for Apple are fascinating. I have an Apple iMac and an Apple MacBook Pro, and would have gone for an iPhone a long time ago if Verizon offered them. The AT&T coverage in my area just plain sucks. Apple was and is an innovator of our modern "smart phones," and I wonder if there even would be an HTC were it not for Apple.


YouTube - The Quietly Brilliant Story of HTC
 
You do know that the first ever touchscreen smartphone was the HTC XDA (branded O2 XDA) right? It was released in 2005 (2 years before iPhone) and it was a classic. Why do you think xda-developers.com is named what it is?
 
These "bad feelings" for Apple are fascinating. ...

Why knock Apple? Most of us have choices...what matters is development of the smartphone concept and the products spun off.

This pretty much sums up my point in creating the thread in the first place. Preference of one platform over another is one thing, but the genuine, deep-seeded animosity -- which is borne out in spades in this thread -- is just puzzling to me. We're all better off as consumers with a competitive landscape with lots of different options, and even if you don't like Apple's products, you'd probably have to recognize that the Apple v Android v WinMo and the Mac v Windows v Linux battle is good for those of us that aren't beholden to a particular platform.
 
This pretty much sums up my point in creating the thread in the first place. Preference of one platform over another is one thing, but the genuine, deep-seeded animosity -- which is borne out in spades in this thread -- is just puzzling to me. We're all better off as consumers with a competitive landscape with lots of different options, and even if you don't like Apple's products, you'd probably have to recognize that the Apple v Android v WinMo and the Mac v Windows v Linux battle is good for those of us that aren't beholden to a particular platform.

Well you started a thread about apple in a android forum so its only natural your gonna get a lash back from the folks that like android.Now i see some saying if it wasn't for apple their wouldn't be an htc and if it wasn't for apple this and that wouldn't exist, things of that nature so you saying just because apple added the phone features to the ipod touch lets give them all the credit in the world for being so innovated,please apple take and copy just like any other software company.
 


You did note that I stated apple was an innovator of the smart phone. That's different than being the innovator. And if ITC was out there first, years before apple, it apparently did not have the marketing muscle to go anywhere with it at that time.

I think apple and its competitors will be developing some super phones in the next few years, much better than any we have now. There's no logical reason to put down apple for all its successes in consumer electronics these days.
 
These "bad feelings" for Apple are fascinating. I have an Apple iMac and an Apple MacBook Pro, and would have gone for an iPhone a long time ago if Verizon offered them. The AT&T coverage in my area just plain sucks. Apple was and is an innovator of our modern "smart phones," and I wonder if there even would be an HTC were it not for Apple.

I was responding to that point. There was a HTC already working on smartphones long before Apple.
 
I've noticed a pretty substantial amount of Apple Animosity on here. Apart from posts, there are numerous avatars with Android logos taking a whizz on Apple logos, etc.

Let's see... androidforums.com combined with a whole buncha children.

What did you expect? :rolleyes:


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You did note that I stated apple was an innovator of the smart phone. That's different than being the innovator. And if ITC was out there first, years before apple, it apparently did not have the marketing muscle to go anywhere with it at that time.

I think apple and its competitors will be developing some super phones in the next few years, much better than any we have now. There's no logical reason to put down apple for all its successes in consumer electronics these days.
Not putting them down just want others to get their recognition as well and i agree with you on the future phones that will be coming out they gonna be awesome stuff.
 
Well you started a thread about apple in a android forum so its only natural your gonna get a lash back from the folks that like android.

Well, I like Android. I like it a lot, so much, in fact, that I have an android phone. As a matter of fact, I like it enough that I've endured hardware issues that have resulted in me being on my third Hero rather than ditching the damn thing and getting an iPhone. I've made my choice.

The difference is that I don't feel the need to rail on competing products and the people that buy them to make me feel better about that choice.
 
You do know that the first ever touchscreen smartphone was the HTC XDA (branded O2 XDA) right? It was released in 2005 (2 years before iPhone) and it was a classic. Why do you think xda-developers.com is named what it is?

I wouldn't give HTC too much credit. They were a OEM mfg and trace their history back to 2002; making Pocket PC PDAs for Compaq (iPaqs) and Dell (Axims). Their touch-screen phones (e.g. Pocket PC Phone) was a natural evolution of that work. The innovation really comes from Microsoft and Compaq that turned Pocket PC into a phone platform. This was in response to Handspring and Palm. And Palm was inspired by the Newton.

It wasn't like they woke up one day in 2004-2005 and decided develop something "silently brilliant" like their ads suggest. Don't read my comments the wrong way, I own a lot of HTC products and PDAs. I've been using Pocket PC as far back as 1999. As far as being innovative, they have some but they also rip-off blatantly (not just from Apple but from other Window Mobile apps).

Their Sense UI comes from Touch-Flo on Windows. Touch-Flo is a rip-off of a popular Windows Mobile launcher shell that the name escapes me right now. Stuff like the scroll wheel numbers used in dates is a clear rip-off.

I like my HTC Incredible. But I can tell you it is more derivative than being innovative. The TV-Out is the only real innovative feature of my phone. I had that on my HTC Touch Pro so it is a unique feature of HTC. Other than that, it is just a fast android phone w/ new tech in it (screen/cpu). Sense is inconsistent and I wish I had the stock Android UI.


Just a thought here, but why name a file with "/"? Is there a purpose for it?
People name their files w/ dates in them like "Video v1 05/01/2010" instead of "video_v1_05_01_2010.mp4" Mac OSX will recognize the 1st name as legal (even w/out extension)
 
I like that history lesson on these devices from a knowledgeable source, mrspeedmaster.

I had no idea Microsoft's role, for example.

Thanks for showing us all of that.
 
I had no idea Microsoft's role, for example.

MS/Compaq was responding to Palm. I remember the whole timeline because I bought a few gadgets back then. Handspring made a GSM card that turned their Palm PDA into a phone. In March 2002, the released the 1st Treo 180. It was basically the 1st PDA smartphone (black n white). I had both the GSM module and the Treo 180. In June, Compaq came up w/ a wireless pack for their Ipaq. All of this was kludgey. After that summer, MS, fearing Palm/Handspring, came up with the reference design for Pocket PC Phone. It was still in its infancy. We then had the 1st Pocket PC Phones, Treo 300/Treo600. Palm eventually bought Handspring. So yes, HTC did make the 1st color smartphone but it was after the innovation of Pam & Compaq. And all of HTC work was under contract.

To bad HTC didn't buy Palm. I bet they have most of the patents for PDA functionality in phones.

In 10 years when FoxConn start making their own products, I'll laugh if they claimed they made the 1st 10" Tablet that played HD. While technically true (they do produce iPad), it would be the same as HTC over-exaggerating their role in history.
 
MS/Compaq was responding to Palm. I remember the whole timeline because I bought a few gadgets back then. Handspring made a GSM card that turned their Palm PDA into a phone. In March 2002, the released the 1st Treo 180. It was basically the 1st PDA smartphone (black n white). I had both the GSM module and the Treo 180. In June, Compaq came up w/ a wireless pack for their Ipaq. All of this was kludgey. After that summer, MS, fearing Palm/Handspring, came up with the reference design for Pocket PC Phone. It was still in its infancy. We then had the 1st Pocket PC Phones, Treo 300/Treo600. Palm eventually bought Handspring. So yes, HTC did make the 1st color smartphone but it was after the innovation of Pam & Compaq. And all of HTC work was under contract.

To bad HTC didn't buy Palm. I bet they have most of the patents for PDA functionality in phones.

In 10 years when FoxConn start making their own products, I'll laugh if they claimed they made the 1st 10" Tablet that played HD. While technically true (they do produce iPad), it would be the same as HTC over-exaggerating their role in history.

As is so often the case, the intricate details wash out a sizable amount of what either side is trying to put forth as proof of their sole legitimacy in the history of these devices.
 
It has taken me a few days to lumber through this thread, and I just want to say that it is a very interesting read, and that I don't really like Apple and their better than thou ideology, I don't truly know enough about any of this to make a useful judgment about who is better. I own an ipod touch, and love the ease of use, and the rock solid feeling it has in your hand. I don't like how boring it is. I own an Htc Hero, and love that it does so many cool things (and I am sure I only scratch the surface of it's capabilities) and that it is completely UNboring.

It seems like that is the basic idea, all the way up with both sides. If you want easy, solid, boring, trendy, then buy Apple. If you want or need a little soul, buy a PC or an Android device, and make it whatever you want. Because you can. And I guess that is the best part...... We can choose.
 
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